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Re: Banking Beta issues

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:03 pm
by megapolis
6.0.12
Looks like Earning Per Share metric does not include Loan and Bond expenses. It is a bug unless you say that it is a feature.
I think that it is a bug because it inflates my stock price.

The same is for Annual Profit metric (obviously they are dependent)

Re: Banking Beta issues

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:44 am
by David
megapolis wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:03 pm 6.0.12
Looks like Earning Per Share metric does not include Loan and Bond expenses. It is a bug unless you say that it is a feature.
I think that it is a bug because it inflates my stock price.

The same is for Annual Profit metric (obviously they are dependent)
This issue will be fixed in the next update v6.0.13.

Re: Banking Beta issues

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:34 am
by David
1. Credit rating of initial bond is D. That's why the only viable strategy on day1 is to take loan and repay all that bond back. There is no place in game where I can invest money @20.30%p/a on day1. This one is definitely a bug, not a feature.
I asked the programmer and was told that for the huge amount of debt that the company has taken, a credit rating D seems reasonable.

Not sure what we can do to amend it. It would not sound logically to artificially alter the credit assessment method for the sake of making the initial credit rating better. If we did that, the credit assessment method would become flawed again.

Re: Banking Beta issues

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:03 pm
by megapolis
These issues are not actually banking ones but since I play test version, I will report them here.
version 6.0.12

Three R&D issues
1. If you cancel R&D, it still appears red in choosing new research interface.
2. In my current game I cannot research Tablet PC. Probably it is because I cancelled it previously or due to some other glitch. (If I recall it correctly, I once cancelled research at corner unit of 3x3 grid instead of the center one and started 25-years research task in 1 unit. I cancelled it at the same moment but cannot start research again)
3. One of my R&D firms for unknown reasons started 1-year Eye Shadow research. There is no way I was able to start that particular R&D firm researching this. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce it. (or fortunately)

Save game sent via PM.

P.S. and no, I will not start this run from start under no circumstances.

Re: Banking Beta issues

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:43 am
by David
I actually like the inputs view. But it is useless without the main screen.
My mock-up screen was created to show that much more information could fit into one screen. In my opinion proper screen is the left part as is and the right part with Utilization and suppliers info. Product quality info is already included on the left part of the screen.
Taking into consideration your preferred way of displaying the data, I have put together a mock-up screen showing a combined view of the main analysis mode UI and inputs UI. I wonder how close it is to your definition of an ideal UI for the analysis mode.

Re: Banking Beta issues

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:46 am
by David
Three R&D issues
1. If you cancel R&D, it still appears red in choosing new research interface.
2. In my current game I cannot research Tablet PC. Probably it is because I cancelled it previously or due to some other glitch. (If I recall it correctly, I once cancelled research at corner unit of 3x3 grid instead of the center one and started 25-years research task in 1 unit. I cancelled it at the same moment but cannot start research again)
3. One of my R&D firms for unknown reasons started 1-year Eye Shadow research. There is no way I was able to start that particular R&D firm researching this. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce it. (or fortunately)
It is hard to trace the bug when it cannot be replicated. If you happen to encounter the bug again and it being reproducible, please let me know.

Re: Banking Beta issues

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:13 am
by megapolis
David wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:43 am
I actually like the inputs view. But it is useless without the main screen.
My mock-up screen was created to show that much more information could fit into one screen. In my opinion proper screen is the left part as is and the right part with Utilization and suppliers info. Product quality info is already included on the left part of the screen.
Taking into consideration your preferred way of displaying the data, I have put together a mock-up screen showing a combined view of the main analysis mode UI and inputs UI. I wonder how close it is to your definition of an ideal UI for the analysis mode.
I think that it is awful. Don't forget that retail stores should have the same general approach. For example with simple manipulations we can fit entire retail store on the same screen. I made three but I am pretty sure that 4 can fit.

Re: Banking Beta issues

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:57 am
by David
I think that it is awful.
Don't quite understand why you thought it was awful when your version basically displays the same types of content in different locations.

Re: Banking Beta issues

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:14 pm
by megapolis
David wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:57 am
I think that it is awful.
Don't quite understand why you thought it was awful when your version basically displays the same types of content in different locations.
It is awful because it cannot be adapted to other business types, for example for retail stores, farms or warehouses.
I mean that there should be the same approach for all types of firms that move goods.

Re: Banking Beta issues

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:51 pm
by megapolis
When AI applies R&D to factory, its Manufacturing level does not drop. It should drop for products that are not AI specialty products.