David wrote:The below case you described in the previous post will be prohibited in the new version.
Let's say "Player Co." owns 75% of Company B, and 75% of Company C.
Both Company B and Company C each own 50% of Company D (so, they own 100%, between them, Player Co. owns no Company D stock, directly).
Company B buys 5% of Company D's stock from Company C -- since both Company B and Company C are controlled by Player Co., perhaps the price of Company D's stock should not change, with that transaction -- the transaction occurs at the current market price, to prevent Player Co. from being able to drive up Company D's stock price by swapping stock back and forth between Company B and Company C.

loldude101 wrote:Regarding the first "improvement",

I personally dislike the direction that the dev team is taking into improving the stock market to be more "real" because in reality the IRL stock market has always been and always will be manipulated be small groups of people at the top. Therefore in reality there are no rules to the stock market; you do what you want and get away with it because you're at the top. Since this is just a game, I would find it more fun to be able to manipulate the world around just as multinational F500 companies are doing IRL.

I remember playing CAP 2 and I once got fifty years into the game producing and selling all the drugs (basically every oil + chem m. product) and it hit me as I made the connection between my simulation, playing an aggressive a drug lord pushing expensive chemically based drugs into the cities, and IRL where companies do exactly this. I finally got into the mindset of the huge pharmaceutical companies and understood why they do what they do, why they try to eliminate natural alternatives which are more effective, why they have the American Medical Association by the balls and are pushing their drugs down the throats of doctors, if this was possible in CAP 2 I would do exactly what they do. This is what a simulator should do, and I hate seeing CAP Lab become more restricted with potential updates limiting control over the environment.

Lastly, you still haven't answered my question on the facebook post for this update.

RougeRogue wrote:

David wrote:The following modifications have been made to prevent the player from manipulating stock prices:

1) In the upcoming new version, players are not allowed to buy a stock in which the player corporation’s subsidiaries have any ownership.

By this, do you mean JUST the "player," or do you also mean, "Player Co.," and any OTHER subsidiaries of Player Co.? If so, this would certainly solve a lot of potential manipulation, including the type I outline, here:
http://www.capitalismlab.com/forum/view ... 8&start=28

However, if you just mean that the Player cannot buy stock in a company that a subsidiary of "Player Co." currently owns stock, then I'm not sure what problem this really solves, other than keeping the Player from transferring some cash from the Player's wallet to a subsidiary company? Given that the game already forbids a subsidiary from purchasing stock in any company that the player currently owns stock, the only direction that money can flow is out of the player's wallet, and into the subsidiary's, which would seem self-defeating, given all the other, more effective ways one may manipulate the stock market in CapLab.

David wrote:The following modifications have been made to prevent the player from manipulating stock prices:

1) In the upcoming new version, players are not allowed to buy a stock in which the player corporation’s subsidiaries have any ownership.