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Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better

by David » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:35 am

I'm not sure what DropBox is and how it works. Isn't there a easier way to upload the file somewhere, PS where does cap lab store saved files, there used to be a folder in normal capitalism 2 called save. Can't seem to find it right now, might be because I'm a little bit drunk and can't see it, but i dont think its there.
FYI: http://www.capitalismlab.com/forum/view ... f=10&t=487

Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better

by mightyfalls » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:34 pm

I'm not sure what DropBox is and how it works. Isn't there a easier way to upload the file somewhere, PS where does cap lab store saved files, there used to be a folder in normal capitalism 2 called save. Can't seem to find it right now, might be because I'm a little bit drunk and can't see it, but i dont think its there.
'S' is used for saving games
'D' is for corporate detail report
and etc.
Yes i know that, but i don't find those bindings useful, i think this really does need a poll.

Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better

by David » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:04 pm

Yes it's all fine, but they increase the price waaay too much. It goes from 10 dollars CPM to 25 CPM and that just in 1 month. I like they idea of making it hard for the player by this, but at one point switching between media firms because of the extreme jumps in price is annoying.
You may start a topic on this and poll other users' feedback on how they exactly would like to see this improved.

e.g. 10 CPM is too low, so the AI raise the price to a normal level of 25 CPM. The players would have the rights to do that and if we are to restrict the AI from doing that, we have to set some rules on the AI's restrictions and this will need more user discussions.
It happens constantly about 20 years in the game, dont think this is an issue at the start of the game.
EDIT: just tested and yes, its fine at the start of the game.
Can you send me your saved game with this problem via dropbox?
I'm thinking W A S D should do well, i don't find the current functions of W A S D useful at all - maybe you could make it so user could change key bindings as they like ?
'S' is used for saving games
'D' is for corporate detail report
and etc.

You may start a new topic about this and get other's feedback and suggestions for the key assignment.

Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better

by mightyfalls » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:48 pm

1) The AI is not programmed to take advantage of the player intentionally. It makes decisions based on supply/demand mainly. The price increased because there were more companies buying the ad slots from that media firm.
Yes it's all fine, but they increase the price waaay too much. It goes from 10 dollars to 25 and that just in 1 month. I like they idea of making it hard for the player by this, but at one point switching between media firms because of the extreme jumps in price is annoying.
What keys do you suggest to use for map scrolling? (they have to be not in conflict with existing keys)
I'm thinking W A S D should do well, i don't find the current functions of W A S D useful at all - maybe you could make it so user could change key bindings as they like ?
Did you mean this on firm detail screen, or product detail screen, or both? I tried both and they are okay. Can you be more specific on the problem?
Firm detail. I think they're fine for me at the start of the game but become buggy later on.

It doesn't cost you extra salary expenses for higher level workers actually. So there will be no advantage for downgrading.
Yes but it does cost more to keep large factory running instead of small one. I guess making factory smaller doesn't really make sense, but expanding is necessary in my opinion. At the moment i have to open another factory if the current one doesn't give me enough supply.
It seems that under certain circumstances this bug will happen. Could you try to provide an action sequence for re-producing this bug?
It happens constantly about 20 years in the game, dont think this is an issue at the start of the game.
EDIT: just tested and yes, its fine at the start of the game.

Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better

by mrbcap » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:44 pm

mwyeoh wrote:
mrbcap wrote:
mightyfalls wrote: EDIT:
7. Its hard to change prices on products as the + and - buttons are quite unresponsive. Sometimes i have to click those buttons so many times to change the price by one increment
I've noticed that too. It's so annoying.
I also miss a markup.
Hi guys

You do realize that right-clicking on the + or - buttons increases/decreases it by 10 increments?

However I have sometimes noticed the bug where I then need to click twice before it starts to respond
Yeah, you're right, but it would be easier if you can change the price just by holding + or - buttons down.

Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better

by David » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:31 pm

1. Advertisement prices in retail stores: After i select my Ad service it usually doubles the price of the service, not sure if this is intentional but it's annoying as hell. Could you make it more stable, so it wouldn't jump up like this and then go down after a few months i switch the Ad service provider. I don't think 500 000 dollars per product advertisement is enough with inflation.
1) The AI is not programmed to take advantage of the player intentionally. It makes decisions based on supply/demand mainly. The price increased because there were more companies buying the ad slots from that media firm.

2) The 500,000 upper limit will be increased with inflation in the next patch.
2. Why did you change stock buying, product price changing + and - button, I can't seem to hold it down and increase or decrease the price anymore. I think it was better the old way although i have to admit it was quite hard getting the exact amount I wanted when it was possible to hold it down. So I'm actually not sure what to do about this.
You can right-click on the [+][-] for a bigger increment/decrement.
3. The inflation. I think it's too brutal. I was at the year 2020 and tv, radio, newspaper stations cost over 1B, also i don't think its possible to actually make money with natural resources like Logging camp and so on with this extreme inflation. Well it is possible but in my opinion the prices go a little bit too crazy after a while.
You may create a new topic on this, polling other user's feedback on this.
4. Stock market. Your gain and losses tab. I think if this reset every time after you sold all of your stocks of a company then it would be awesome. Right now its just showing my all time earnings from each stock, dont get me wrong its nice but maybe add another tab for all time earnings from a stock and another one for what i said before. I really enjoy this tab though, feel it could be a little bit better.
Will forward this suggestion to dev team.
6. Moving around the map with right click is really really bad right now. It's not smooth or really usable at all. Also, would it be possible to make it so i can move around the maps with arrow keys as well as right mouse click.
What keys do you suggest to use for map scrolling? (they have to be not in conflict with existing keys)
7. Its hard to change prices on products as the + and - buttons are quite unresponsive. Sometimes i have to click those buttons so many times to change the price by one increment
Did you mean this on firm detail screen, or product detail screen, or both? I tried both and they are okay. Can you be more specific on the problem?
8. Would it be possible to add factory upgrade and downgrade i.e hiring more workers and sacking them when not needed - for some fee of course.
It doesn't cost you extra salary expenses for higher level workers actually. So there will be no advantage for downgrading.
I also have an issue with brand rating going down randomly even though i have best media firm linked - with 37% rating and spending max on advertising while the CPM is ~3. Apparently switching to another media firm with rating of 27% and CPM ~2.6 fixes this issue and my brand rating starts going up again.
You may create a new topic about this and see if other players have the same problem or it is part of the simulation's effects on advertising - to see what their views are.
i was just in the game. Had to click + literally 10 times before it did anything, this is a bug that really needs fixing.
It seems that under certain circumstances this bug will happen. Could you try to provide an action sequence for re-producing this bug?

Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better

by mightyfalls » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:02 pm

i was just in the game. Had to click + literally 10 times before it did anything, this is a bug that really needs fixing.

Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better

by mwyeoh » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:44 pm

mrbcap wrote:
mightyfalls wrote: EDIT:
7. Its hard to change prices on products as the + and - buttons are quite unresponsive. Sometimes i have to click those buttons so many times to change the price by one increment
I've noticed that too. It's so annoying.
I also miss a markup.
Hi guys

You do realize that right-clicking on the + or - buttons increases/decreases it by 10 increments?

However I have sometimes noticed the bug where I then need to click twice before it starts to respond

Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better

by mrbcap » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:41 pm

mightyfalls wrote: EDIT:
7. Its hard to change prices on products as the + and - buttons are quite unresponsive. Sometimes i have to click those buttons so many times to change the price by one increment
I've noticed that too. It's so annoying.
I also miss a markup.

Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better

by mightyfalls » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:11 am

Yeah exactly, they should do it way more than that.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to upgrade your factories? Downgrade would be nice too.

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