Did alot of testing yesterday here are a few pointers that i think could be better:
1. Advertisement prices in retail stores: After i select my Ad service it usually doubles the price of the service, not sure if this is intentional but it's annoying as hell. Could you make it more stable, so it wouldn't jump up like this and then go down after a few months i switch the Ad service provider. I don't think 500 000 dollars per product advertisement is enough with inflation.
2. Why did you change stock buying, product price changing + and - button, I can't seem to hold it down and increase or decrease the price anymore. I think it was better the old way although i have to admit it was quite hard getting the exact amount I wanted when it was possible to hold it down. So I'm actually not sure what to do about this.
3. The inflation. I think it's too brutal. I was at the year 2020 and tv, radio, newspaper stations cost over 1B, also i don't think its possible to actually make money with natural resources like Logging camp and so on with this extreme inflation. Well it is possible but in my opinion the prices go a little bit too crazy after a while.
4. Stock market. Your gain and losses tab. I think if this reset every time after you sold all of your stocks of a company then it would be awesome. Right now its just showing my all time earnings from each stock, dont get me wrong its nice but maybe add another tab for all time earnings from a stock and another one for what i said before. I really enjoy this tab though, feel it could be a little bit better.
5. Your brand and the AI. For example, I don't want to own a retail shop which is pretty much a must right now if i actually want to sell my product. Is it possible to make AI advertise my products and get the brand rating up in the city they sell it in. Because right now i have to open a retail shop in each city and advertise my own products myself, for the brand rating to be competitive. Unless i do that, I have to sell my product at pretty much half the price to AI so they can also make some profit reselling, but this isn't really working in my opinion.
6. Moving around the map with right click is really really bad right now. It's not smooth or really usable at all. Also, would it be possible to make it so i can move around the maps with arrow keys as well as right mouse click.
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7. Its hard to change prices on products as the + and - buttons are quite unresponsive. Sometimes i have to click those buttons so many times to change the price by one increment
8. Would it be possible to add factory upgrade and downgrade i.e hiring more workers and sacking them when not needed - for some fee of course.
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9. I also have an issue with brand rating going down randomly even though i have best media firm linked - with 37% rating and spending max on advertising while the CPM is ~3. Apparently switching to another media firm with rating of 27% and CPM ~2.6 fixes this issue and my brand rating starts going up again.
Can't remember anything else right now i will however keep adding stuff in this thread. Oh yea, is it possible to pre-order this game already i really like cap lab.
Okay so i found a few things that could be better
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Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better
The AI does advertise other people's products, but not to the same scale- They also take into account how much they can sell it for and how much profit they are making (A Catch 22- Cant increase price without advertising, cant advertise without good profits)mightyfalls wrote: 5. Your brand and the AI. For example, I don't want to own a retail shop which is pretty much a must right now if i actually want to sell my product. Is it possible to make AI advertise my products and get the brand rating up in the city they sell it in. Because right now i have to open a retail shop in each city and advertise my own products myself, for the brand rating to be competitive. Unless i do that, I have to sell my product at pretty much half the price to AI so they can also make some profit reselling, but this isn't really working in my opinion.
Also, you can have advertising from your factories
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Well i haven't seen them advertise mine yet, it has always been me doing the hard work of advertising for them. Thanks for letting me know the factory advertisement feature though.
I just remembered: Sometimes especially in the late game, i can't see some of the buildings, I can see their label but not the building itself, so always when I try to place my shops and stuff it says land not available. I know the building is there but its really annoying that i can't actually see the image though.
I just remembered: Sometimes especially in the late game, i can't see some of the buildings, I can see their label but not the building itself, so always when I try to place my shops and stuff it says land not available. I know the building is there but its really annoying that i can't actually see the image though.
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Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better
I have seen them advertise with mine, but it only ever goes up to 10 or so. Very littlemightyfalls wrote:Well i haven't seen them advertise mine yet, it has always been me doing the hard work of advertising for them. Thanks for letting me know the factory advertisement feature though.
I just remembered: Sometimes especially in the late game, i can't see some of the buildings, I can see their label but not the building itself, so always when I try to place my shops and stuff it says land not available. I know the building is there but its really annoying that i can't actually see the image though.
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Yeah exactly, they should do it way more than that.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to upgrade your factories? Downgrade would be nice too.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to upgrade your factories? Downgrade would be nice too.
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Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better
I've noticed that too. It's so annoying.mightyfalls wrote: EDIT:
7. Its hard to change prices on products as the + and - buttons are quite unresponsive. Sometimes i have to click those buttons so many times to change the price by one increment
I also miss a markup.
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Hi guysmrbcap wrote:I've noticed that too. It's so annoying.mightyfalls wrote: EDIT:
7. Its hard to change prices on products as the + and - buttons are quite unresponsive. Sometimes i have to click those buttons so many times to change the price by one increment
I also miss a markup.
You do realize that right-clicking on the + or - buttons increases/decreases it by 10 increments?
However I have sometimes noticed the bug where I then need to click twice before it starts to respond
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Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better
i was just in the game. Had to click + literally 10 times before it did anything, this is a bug that really needs fixing.
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Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better
1) The AI is not programmed to take advantage of the player intentionally. It makes decisions based on supply/demand mainly. The price increased because there were more companies buying the ad slots from that media firm.1. Advertisement prices in retail stores: After i select my Ad service it usually doubles the price of the service, not sure if this is intentional but it's annoying as hell. Could you make it more stable, so it wouldn't jump up like this and then go down after a few months i switch the Ad service provider. I don't think 500 000 dollars per product advertisement is enough with inflation.
2) The 500,000 upper limit will be increased with inflation in the next patch.
You can right-click on the [+][-] for a bigger increment/decrement.2. Why did you change stock buying, product price changing + and - button, I can't seem to hold it down and increase or decrease the price anymore. I think it was better the old way although i have to admit it was quite hard getting the exact amount I wanted when it was possible to hold it down. So I'm actually not sure what to do about this.
You may create a new topic on this, polling other user's feedback on this.3. The inflation. I think it's too brutal. I was at the year 2020 and tv, radio, newspaper stations cost over 1B, also i don't think its possible to actually make money with natural resources like Logging camp and so on with this extreme inflation. Well it is possible but in my opinion the prices go a little bit too crazy after a while.
Will forward this suggestion to dev team.4. Stock market. Your gain and losses tab. I think if this reset every time after you sold all of your stocks of a company then it would be awesome. Right now its just showing my all time earnings from each stock, dont get me wrong its nice but maybe add another tab for all time earnings from a stock and another one for what i said before. I really enjoy this tab though, feel it could be a little bit better.
What keys do you suggest to use for map scrolling? (they have to be not in conflict with existing keys)6. Moving around the map with right click is really really bad right now. It's not smooth or really usable at all. Also, would it be possible to make it so i can move around the maps with arrow keys as well as right mouse click.
Did you mean this on firm detail screen, or product detail screen, or both? I tried both and they are okay. Can you be more specific on the problem?7. Its hard to change prices on products as the + and - buttons are quite unresponsive. Sometimes i have to click those buttons so many times to change the price by one increment
It doesn't cost you extra salary expenses for higher level workers actually. So there will be no advantage for downgrading.8. Would it be possible to add factory upgrade and downgrade i.e hiring more workers and sacking them when not needed - for some fee of course.
You may create a new topic about this and see if other players have the same problem or it is part of the simulation's effects on advertising - to see what their views are.I also have an issue with brand rating going down randomly even though i have best media firm linked - with 37% rating and spending max on advertising while the CPM is ~3. Apparently switching to another media firm with rating of 27% and CPM ~2.6 fixes this issue and my brand rating starts going up again.
It seems that under certain circumstances this bug will happen. Could you try to provide an action sequence for re-producing this bug?i was just in the game. Had to click + literally 10 times before it did anything, this is a bug that really needs fixing.
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Re: Okay so i found a few things that could be better
Yeah, you're right, but it would be easier if you can change the price just by holding + or - buttons down.mwyeoh wrote:Hi guysmrbcap wrote:I've noticed that too. It's so annoying.mightyfalls wrote: EDIT:
7. Its hard to change prices on products as the + and - buttons are quite unresponsive. Sometimes i have to click those buttons so many times to change the price by one increment
I also miss a markup.
You do realize that right-clicking on the + or - buttons increases/decreases it by 10 increments?
However I have sometimes noticed the bug where I then need to click twice before it starts to respond