Depression to Booming Economies

[nejxis]

Since I started using the Banking Dlc, I've realised that the economy goes from one way to the other fast.

For example it goes booming +90% GDP and then two years later it's depression of -70% GDP, The fluctuations are so high and no stability whatsoever.

Using all DLCs

[David]

Could you please provide me with your save game file?

[nejxis]

Every game I play basically is doing something like this, some of which go to high extremes and others ''just'' +/- 50% GDP on a 3 year timeframe, similar to the one below.


https://gofile.io/?c=w7NJ1m

[megapolis]

Plus one. I have also seen this +90% growth during initial raise of bank capital.

[JasonLJJ]

Same

[james88]

I've also been experiencing this too, has anybody had any luck figuring out the problem?

[nejxis]

At first I thought it was something to do with people leaving the cities, so I decided to try different games and invested heavily in real estate, but ended up the same and most buildings lost like 80% occupancy rates and ended up losing millions per month.


I've tried lowering the impact of economy on banks liquidity, but it still resulted in the same thing and almost always the banks end up bankrupt each ''cycle''. Then 3-4 new banks arise and they go bankrupt again and so on.


I've tried keeping investments as high as possible (building new factories, retail units and so on) so as to keep the jobs to a high, and maybe be able to export more, but it still kept fluctuating the same.

I tried making the AI Pricing aggressiveness to low as I though that maybe it had some sort of impact on the economy as whole, nothing drastically changed.

If I switch off the banking dlc it goes back to Booming in the first few years, and then it stays in expansion - static - recession territories, so like a +/- 3/4%.

[David]

Hi Nejxis,

I loaded your save game but the economic cycle has already experienced the great fluctuation.

Do you have an earlier save game where the economic expansion just began? So that I can run it to observe its behavior through a cycle?

I started several new games with all 4 DLCs enabled for testing but never encountered situations with GDP growth plunging below -20%.

[james88]

At first I thought it was something to do with people leaving the cities, so I decided to try different games and invested heavily in real estate, but ended up the same and most buildings lost like 80% occupancy rates and ended up losing millions per month.


I've tried lowering the impact of economy on banks liquidity, but it still resulted in the same thing and almost always the banks end up bankrupt each ''cycle''. Then 3-4 new banks arise and they go bankrupt again and so on.


I've tried keeping investments as high as possible (building new factories, retail units and so on) so as to keep the jobs to a high, and maybe be able to export more, but it still kept fluctuating the same.

I tried making the AI Pricing aggressiveness to low as I though that maybe it had some sort of impact on the economy as whole, nothing drastically changed.

If I switch off the banking dlc it goes back to Booming in the first few years, and then it stays in expansion - static - recession territories, so like a +/- 3/4%.

In my save people just stop buying, consumption plummets and everything follows.

This 'cycle' happens roughly every 10 years in my game, investments, spending and exports make up such a small percentage of GDP, that it makes it practically impossible to balance the economy.

The AI also seem to struggle with managing the banks when in crisis as well, I'm yet to see a company with a bank make it through a recession, never mind a depression.

Hi Nejxis,

I loaded your save game but the economic cycle has already experienced the great fluctuation.

Do you have an earlier save game where the economic expansion just began? So that I can run it to observe its behavior through a cycle?

I started several new games with all 4 DLCs enabled for testing but never encountered situations with GDP growth plunging below -20%.

I have about 50 saves going from day 1 to around Dec 2009, the cycle happens a couple of times and it just hitting it's lowest now.
7 cities, max ai, 1990 start, running realworld 11.37.
I can zip and send them over if needed?

Great work on the new content btw, thanks for access.

[David]

I tested it without any mods. In your testing, did the problem also occur when not using any mods ?